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  1. matthewbell32 Du kommer alltid vara nummer 1 för mig

  2. James ... and his things xD

    Another extra pee break in 2012.
    icelandic girl, jw, Scheeples and 2 others like this.
  3. Lilly.. Y U NO ALIEN?

    Czech Republic for a return ? Well that would be great, but there's still time for them to change their minds without punishment so better not wait for anything specific.
  4. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    Destruct will still be banned.
    NickEmpel, Estêvão and Julio like this.
  5. Jonny Ginger Tory Witch

    The EBU should probably pencil in their 2013 withdrawal.
  6. Luis DLC I spread Eurovision joy in the US, oy

    Maybe this time they'll get 10 points! :o
  7. Nicat New Member

    Armenia withdraw from Eurovision 2012?
  8. ETVable Everything is TVable

    My understanding is that there is a serious dispute between Azerbaijan and Armenia that has been going on for years. Don't know any more about it.
  9. ETVable Everything is TVable

    A clash between the principles of territorial integrity and self-determination is occurring in the Caucasus, creating the longest interethnic dispute in the former Soviet Union. Armenians of the Nagorno-Karabakh region, part of Azerbaijan since 1923, seek independence. Armenians comprise the majority in Karabakh and have a different culture, religion, and language than Azeris. Azerbaijan seeks to preserve its national integrity. Sharp differences over history, goals, events, casualties, cease-fires, and the roles of outsiders between Armenians and Azeris hinder mediation. The dispute has been characterized by violence, mutual expulsion of rival nationals, charges and countercharges. Armenian and Azerbaijan government control over combatants, at times, was loose. After the December 1991 demise of the Soviet Union and subsequent dispersal of sophisticated Soviet weaponry, the conflict worsened. Thousands of deaths and 1.4 million refugees have resulted.
  10. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    As ETVable posted, there is a Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and yes, this has caused serious issues between Azerbaijan and Armenia. There are even rumours that Azeri's were arrested and questioned by the police for voting for Armenia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009.
    However, the Azeri broadcaster Ictimai has stated that Armenia is welcome to the contest, despite the law that no Armenians can enter Azeri territory.
    As Nicat said, there was a report on an Armenian withdrawal, yes. I read this article with help of Mrvirgo, also a member of this site and the case is clear:
    The statement came from an Azeri website, where a certain person said, in an interview that he had heard rumours on a withdrawal.
    That doesn't seem like a reliable source to me, it's best to just wait for official messages by the Armenian broadcaster, I think.
  11. Luis DLC I spread Eurovision joy in the US, oy

    I agree, Nick, let's wait for ARMTV's official statement.
  12. pepepaez Masiosare's first Head of Delegation.

    Yes, there has been a conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia over a territory known as Nagorno-Karabakh, as ETVable and NickEmpel mention. This event even jumped to the Eurovision scene in 2009:

    During the Semi-Finals in Moscow, you can see there's a monument during Armenia's postcard (check at 1:29) called "We Are Our Mountains", which is located inside the disputed region. As the postcard represented some of the country's national monuments, Armenia's postcard represented that the monument was indeed from Armenia; so Azerbaijan complained about this and the postcard was edited and the monument was changed to another monument for the postcard's presentation in the Final (check at 0:19). But that's not it: during Sirusho's presentation of the Armenian votes in the Final, the monument was displayed again in her background and on the board she holds in her hands (you can even see and hear she sighs just before she raises her board to read the points... kind of in disagreement, like "I was forced to do this").

    After this, as NickEmpel mentions, came the rumors that some people in Azerbaijan were arrested for voting for Armenia (I read somewhere else that it was revealed there were 43 calls voting for Armenia, and the EBU couldn't do much against it). So that's what I know about that conflict in the Eurovision arena.
  13. dan Bald Member

    Will be interesting to see if Armenia participate
  14. Madwolfy New Member

    What Armenia may look to do is find an Armenian artist that does not have Armenian citizenship.
    You may have heard rumors each year about the band system of a down entering the contest to represent Armenia - This year it seems that it will be more likely than ever due to the circumstances.

    Here is an article mentioning it: http://news.am/eng/news/65132.html
    It says the broadcasting board is trying to hold talks with the band, so this is a possibility.
  15. AJJS Adam James Jurgen Slack :)

    :az:
    THE LIST KEEPS BUILDING FOR BAKU!
    :az:

    Well, :ge: Confirmed Today, So That Brings The Number Up To 40, We Are Still Waiting On :pl: + :am: + :pt: To Reconfirm Also, This Is According To Wikipedia, And Also We Are Awaiting :sk: To Confirm Also. So If We Get Everyone From Last Year ( Just Waiting On These Last 4 To Reconfirm) We Will Be On 44 Due To The Return Of :me:!! YAY!

    BUT! What About Even More Debuts, Or Other Returns?
    :ad: Recently Declared They Are Most Likely Not Going TO Be Back In ESC For ATLEAST A Few Years! :cautious:
    :cz: Were Due To Return For ESC 2012, But Are Again Going To Be Absent From The Final List :'(
    :xk: I Think Are Due To Make A Surprise Debut, Its All Based On Funding As There Regional TV Station Has, As I Believe Recently Been Authorized For EBU Membership! :D
    :lb: More Than Likely Will Not Join The Contest While Israel Remain Constant Entrants, Or Unless The Two Nations Resolve Their Issues :S
    :li: Mainly, A Lack Of Funding And The Fact They Dont See The Point In Applying For EBU Membership Is Currently Keeping Them From Entering, But They Are Likewise To Kosovo And Could Make A Surprise Debut! :rolleyes:
    :lu: Have Fully Explained They Have No Intention In Returning To The Contest, SADLY! :(
    :mc: Pretty Much The Same As Andorra Sadly, Lack Of Funding etc etc :down:
    :ma: THE ONE TO WATCH FOR 2012! Will They Be Returning TO The Contest!?!?!?! Its Looking Good :P
    :tn: Similar To Lebanon, Will Be Absent Until Issues Are Resolved With Israel :@

    So For Baku 2012, If We Get All 43 +:me:(Returning), We Will Break The Record Anyway, But With Things Looking Good For :ma: (Returning) Also, Baku Could Potentially Be The Biggest In ESC History, Of course We Only Have A Few Weeks Till The Final Preliminary List Is Released!


    :az:
    THE LIST KEEPS BUILDING FOR BAKU!
    :az:
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  16. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    You just wanted to play with the emoticons and flags, didn't you? :P
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  17. Julio STRANGLES

    we already did. http://festivaistv.home.sapo.pt/ for more info about the nf if you care to translate it, also it will be up on the rtp main site in few days.
  18. Julio STRANGLES

  19. Merjan MICHAEL GOVE FOR PM

    Why Does He Start Every Word With A Capital Letter? :o
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  20. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    I Knew You Would Make A Point Of It.
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