What a disgusting Jury Vote - UK in 22nd?? At least azerbaijan won the televote. taken from http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=36713&_t=ebu_reveals_split_televoting_and_jury_results Televote 1 Azerbaijan 223 2 Sweden 221 3 Greece 176 4 Ukraine 168 5 United Kingdom 166 6 Bosnia & Herzegovina 151 7 Georgia 138 8 Russia 138 9 Germany 113 10 Ireland 101 11 Italy 99 12 Moldova 98 13 Serbia 89 14 Romania 79 15 France 76 16 Spain 73 17 Hungary 64 18 Denmark 61 19 Iceland 60 20 Lithuania 55 21 Finland 47 22 Slovenia 39 23 Estonia 32 24 Austria 25 25 Switzerland 2 Jury vote 1 Italy 251 2 Azerbaijan 182 3 Denmark 168 4 Slovenia 160 5 Austria 145 6 Ireland 119 7 Ukraine 117 8 Serbia 111 9 Sweden 106 10 Germany 104 11 Bosnia & Herzegovina 90 12 France 90 13 Romania 86 14 Greece 84 15 Moldova 82 16 Georgia 79 17 Finland 75 18 Estonia 74 19 Iceland 72 20 Lithuania 66 21 Hungary 60 22 United Kingdom 57 23 Switzerland 53 24 Spain 38 25 Russia 25
Semi One Televoting 1. Greece 154 2. Azerbaijan 124 3. Finland 111 4. Russia 93 5. Georgia 90 6. Iceland 79 7. Armenia 75 8. Hungary 73 9. Norway 56 10. Turkey 54 11. Lithuania 52 12. Switzerland 45 13. Albania 42 14. Serbia 42 15. Portugal 39 16. Croatia 32 17. Poland 25 18. Malta 24 19. San Marino 8 Juries 1. Lithuania 113 2. Azerbaijan 109 3. Iceland 104 4. Serbia 102 5. Finland 86 6. Malta 84 7. Switzerland 76 8. Greece 74 9. San Marino 74 10. Hungary 65 11. Albania 61 12. Turkey 58 13. Georgia 51 14. Croatia 49 15. Armenia 33 16. Russia 31 17. Norway 29 18. Poland 13 19. Portugal 6
Semi Two Televoting 1. Sweden 159 2. Bosnia & Herzegovina 131 3. Romania 121 4. Denmark 115 5. Ukraine 91 6. Ireland 78 7. Slovenia 68 8. Moldova 61 9. Belarus 54 10. Austria 52 11. Israel 51 12. Belgium 50 13. Estonia 46 14. Latvia 43 15. Bulgaria 43 16. Slovakia 40 17. FYR Macedonia 33 18. Cyprus 23 19. Holland 17 Juries 1. Slovenia 146 2. Denmark 129 3. Sweden 99 4. Austria 95 5. Romania 85 6. Estonia 83 7. Ukraine 76 8. Belgium 71 9. Slovakia 71 10. Ireland 66 11. Bosnia & Herzegovina 65 12. Bulgaria 59 13. Moldova 53 14. FYR Macedonia 47 15. Belarus 38 16. Israel 36 17. Cyprus 24 18. Holland 22 19. Latvia 11
Oh my word the Juries gave more points to Jedward than the public did. Now I can see why that bloke predicted the rapture.
FFS, I'm MAD! I wish I had saved some chats 3 years ago, when I insisted that televoting WILL vote for a favourite song, no matter the country and that juries offer NOTHING and ppl said I said it because I wanted Greece to do better. But I didn't and now you see why (the younger ones..because older ones like me remember very well how the juries voted). The Uk and Switzerland were robbed.
And btw, someone ask Terry Wogan his opinion on the results. I hold him responsible for the stupid idea that ppl don't vote for the Uk and only eastern countries do well in televoting and blah blah blah. I'd love to see what he would say now.
I don't think these results are worth making a fuzz. Yes, there are some ridiculous results going on there, but at least we know a few things: - Running order does matter. Denmark and Finland, #1 and #3 in running order, suddenly failed on the televote. I heard a lot of people saying that it might even be an advantage? Well that is proven to be false now. - Russia is not automatically in the top 10 anymore. Juries killed them this time. I can't say I am unhappy with these results. Ok, UK was robbed. And not a little bit, but if Blue really fucked the jury rehearsal, who are we to judge the juries then? Personally, even though I loved 'I can', if they fucked their live performance, I wouldn't vote it! Surprising to me is that the juries had to save fan favourite Estonia. I am still 100% pro juries. Even if it was just for a feeling. And now don't start bitching that it's proven that it helps nothing, but if a person watches ESC and only even THINKS that the results are a bit fairer, it's a good thing. Maybe juries don't solve anything, but I think they should be there in 2012 as well.
Considering jw told me via MSN at the time Blue were shit at their rehearsal, it perhaps comes as no surprise they failed to impress. I think juries should judge the performance on the night though. Juries voted for some shit, televoters voted for some shit... maybe it all balances out in the end. The end result didn't change I suppose (i.e. Azerbaijan still won) so maybe none of it even matters. I think juries should remain in 2012.
Saying Blue weren't good in the rehearsal means nothing. Anna Rossinelli was great in her rehearsal and look what they gave her.
jury are good, they made us boom boom chaka chaka free this time, and also give other countries chances, if it was televote only we would see almost always the same countries on top or in final witch ever s*it they send. we still have that (greece) but its less then before okay jury made some bad picks like malta beeing so high and serbia and uk so low, but then again they made us an armenia turkey free zone and saved lithuania swiss on the semi final for exemple. made russia flop even though i liked their song its just a way to see that jury can influence the voting and make the usual top countries flop, italy was other mistake, but its a more fair result, probably would be better if they judged on the esc night and not on the previous night, but we cant judge their votes when after all they didnt judge what we saw but some other performance
When 8/10 countries of the top 10 are the same with juries/televoting (exactly like 2009 and 2010) and on the other hand I see my favourites, like Spain last year and Uk this year being screwed, I seriously can't say that I see anything good with juries.
seriously spain last year, ew, and yes 8/10 countries are the same but then again if you looked to semis you will see how jury influenced, belarus, turkey, armenia, norway, saving lithuania serbia (mistake) swiss and estonia
Two things. 1. In the televoting Sweden only being 2 points behind Azerbaijan is quite incredible when you consider that Sweden performed very early on and Azerbaijan very late. Had they swapped singing positions I'm 100% sure Sweden would have won the televote. Either way it doesn't matter, and I think Azerbaijan sent a more worthy song in any case, but it's weird to think that the effect that the running order had. 2. I don't think the point of the juries is so much to produce radically different results to the televoting. In fact that's probably the worst possible thing that could happen, but I think they're there to simply make the points a little less predictable on the night i.e I remember in 2008 I could guess 90% of 8, 10's and 12 points whereas that simply isn't the case anymore, primarily down to jury voting Either way I'm happy with the jury vote this year. I actually prefer their top 10 anyway (Not that that's my justification for the juries existence).
Ooh, Mina you're surprising me...not about your views on juries, but because I'd always thought you were really young!
I'm with Nick and Julio. I think the juries should vote on the performance on the night, not on a different performance that we don't see. Maybe they take away that holier than thou "we wus robbed" element. It used to be that I could usually come up with a reason why a particular country had won, even if it was only that all their neighbours had voted for them; now it's not so easy. Azerbaijan was an OK song. Not the best, but certainly not the worst and, IMO, we have have some pretty rank winners. (While 'Satellite' wasn't rank, I can still see absolutely no reason whatsoever why that won last year) Maybe Azerbaijan was the least worst for many people or, at least, the most acceptable. I still can't see what so many people have got against Italy. Julio's contention that the jury vote was a mistake is, IMO, slightly overcooking it; it's not as if Italy was right down the bottom with the televoters. But, as Switzerland fared so badly with both the juries and the televoters in the final, maybe it was a mistake of the juries to save them in the semi. And again, whether we liked the song or not, the discrepancy over Russia is quite startling. Maybe it's the juries who are now voting politically rather than the masses.