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Bookmakers and Eurovision 2013

  1. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    10th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :ru: Russia (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ua: Ukraine (+2)
    6. :it: Italy (-1)
    7. :by: Belarus (-1)
    8. :az: Azerbaijan (+2)
    9. :am: Armenia (0)
    10. :de: Germany (-2)
    11. :ge: Georgia (0)
    12. :uk: United Kingdom (0)
    13. :nl: Holland (0)
    14. :ie: Ireland (+2)
    15. :gr: Greece (0)
    16. :fi: Finland (+1)
    17. :il: Israel (+1)
    18. :at: Austria (+2)
    19. :ee: Estonia (+3)
    20. :rs: Serbia (-1)
    21. :ro: Romania (-7)
    22. :fr: France (-1)
    23. :md: Moldova (+1)
    24. :al: Albania (+3)
    25. :lt: Lithuania (-1)
    26. :mt: Malta (+2)
    27. :is: Iceland (-1)
    28. :hr: Croatia (-3)
    29. :sm: San Marino (+3)
    30. :es: Spain (+4)
    31. :si: Slovenia (-1)
    32. :mk: FYR Macedonia (-1)
    33. :lv: Latvia (0)
    34. :bg: Bulgaria (+1)
    35. :me: Montenegro (+1)
    36. :hu: Hungary (-7)
    37. :be: Belgium (0)
    38. :ch: Switzerland (0)
    39. :cy: Cyprus (0)
    Big winners: Estonia, Albania, San Marino & Spain
    Big losers: Hungary, Croatia & Romania
  2. Genesis2703 Pointless

    Hmmm Isreal is still underated by the bookies it seems. I am quite amazed by how high Armenia and Sweden are though :o
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  3. Norbert Welcome

    armenia,greece,estonia,romania,albania,lithuania too overrated
    slovenia,fyr macedonia,malta,serbia,germany too underratted
  4. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    11th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :se: Sweden (+1)
    4. :ru: Russia (-1)
    5. :nl: Holland (+8)
    6. :ua: Ukraine (-1)
    7. :it: Italy (-1)
    8. :by: Belarus (-1)
    9. :az: Azerbaijan (-1)
    10. :de: Germany (0)
    11. :am: Armenia (-2)
    12. :ge: Georgia (-1)
    13. :uk: United Kingdom (-1)
    14. :ie: Ireland (0)
    15. :gr: Greece (0)
    16. :at: Austria (+2)
    17. :fi: Finland (-1)
    18. :ee: Estonia (+1)
    19. :rs: Serbia (+1)
    20. :fr: France (+2)
    21. :il: Israel (-4)
    22. :ro: Romania (-1)
    23. :md: Moldova (0)
    24. :lt: Lithuania (+1)
    25. :mt: Malta (+1)
    26. :al: Albania (-1)
    27. :hr: Croatia (+1)
    28. :is: Iceland (-1)
    29. :me: Montenegro (+6)
    30. :sm: San Marino (-1)
    31. :mk: FYR Macedonia (+1)
    32. :es: Spain (-2)
    33. :bg: Bulgaria (+1)
    34. :si: Slovenia (-3)
    35. :lv: Latvia (-2)
    36. :hu: Hungary (0)
    37. :ch: Switzerland (+1)
    38. :be: Belgium (-1)
    39. :cy: Cyprus (0)
    Big winners: Holland, Montenegro
    Big losers: Slovenia, Israel
  5. adamacs RUTH DAVIDSON FOR PM.

    ok, here's the deal, If :nl: finish top 5 I will fly to athens and JUMP OFF MINA'S BALCONY
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  6. Genesis2703 Pointless

    Sweden actually went up after the song was annouced??? And Isreal is still falling, these bookies are crazy!! :P
  7. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    12th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (+2)
    4. :se: Sweden (-1)
    5. :ru: Russia (-1)
    6. :ua: Ukraine (0)
    7. :az: Azerbaijan (+2)
    8. :it: Italy (-1)
    9. :by: Belarus (-1)
    10. :de: Germany (0)
    11. :ge: Georgia (+1)
    12. :am: Armenia (-1)
    13. :uk: United Kingdom (0)
    14. :gr: Greece (+1)
    15. :fi: Finland (+2)
    16. :ie: Ireland (-2)
    17. :at: Austria (-1)
    18. :rs: Serbia (+1)
    19. :ee: Estonia (-1)
    20. :fr: France (0)
    21. :md: Moldova (+2)
    22. :il: Israel (-1)
    23. :al: Albania (+3)
    24. :lt: Lithuania (0)
    25. :sm: San Marino (+5)
    26. :mt: Malta (-1)
    27. :hr: Croatia (0)
    28. :is: Iceland (0)
    29. :mk: FYR Macedonia (+2)
    30. :es: Spain (+2)
    31. :si: Slovenia (+3)
    32. :me: Montenegro (-3)
    33. :bg: Bulgaria (0)
    34. :ro: Romania (-12)
    35. :hu: Hungary (+1)
    36. :lv: Latvia (-1)
    37. :cy: Cyprus (+2)
    38. :ch: Switzerland (0)
    39. :be: Belgium (-2)
    Big winners: Albania, San Marino & Slovenia
    Big losers: Romania & Montenegro
  8. Genesis2703 Pointless

    Finally Romania is down where it belongs!!!

    Hmmmm The dutch song is a massive improvement this year, but 3rd is a tiny bit optimistic imo.

    >Traditional rant line about Israel falling in rank
  9. CTP Jass hater

    The surprises for me are Holland and the Ukraine. While Birds probably isn't the worst ballad, I didn't think it was that amazing either. The Ukraine song is different, I like it, but I didn't think it would be a contender for a high place. I'd like to think Switzerland will do better than the bookies think...
  10. Norbert Welcome

    i never believe bookmakers..they rarey guess
  11. Mina Member with a "past"

    They don't guess, Norbert :P People pay for those bets. It's not bookmakers' choices..its fans' choices.
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  12. Norbert Welcome

    ahh now i see why its so bad haha as theyre only fans paying lmao :D
  13. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    14th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ru: Russia (0)
    6. :ua: Ukraine (0)
    7. :it: Italy (+1)
    8. :az: Azerbaijan (-1)
    9. :by: Belarus (0)
    10. :de: Germany (0)
    11. :uk: United Kingdom (+2)
    12. :ge: Georgia (-1)
    13. :am: Armenia (-1)
    14. :ie: Ireland (+2)
    15. :rs: Serbia (+3)
    16. :fr: France (+4)
    17. :fi: Finland (-2)
    18. :md: Moldova (+3)
    19. :sm: San Marino (+6)
    20. :cy: Cyprus (+17)
    21. :lt: Lithuania (+3)
    22. :gr: Greece (-8)
    23. :at: Austria (-6)
    24. :ee: Estonia (-5)
    25. :il: Israel (-3)
    26. :al: Albania (-3)
    27. :mt: Malta (-1)
    28. :hr: Croatia (-1)
    29. :is: Iceland (-1)
    30. :ch: Switzerland (+8)
    31. :mt: Montenegro (+1)
    32. :lv: Latvia (+4)
    33. :si: Slovenia (-2)
    34. :es: Spain (-4)
    35. :mk: FYR Macedonia (-6)
    36. :bg: Bulgaria (-3)
    37. :ro: Romania (-3)
    38. :hu: Hungary (-3)
    39. :be: Belgium (0)
    Big winners: Cyprus, Serbia, San Marino, France, Moldova, Lithuania, Switzerland & Latvia
    Big losers: Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, FYR Macedonia, Spain, Israel, Albania, Estonia, Greece & Austria
  14. CroMaxim Bryce

    Big loop for Cyprus... :cautious: Bookies must love this :court:
  15. Genesis2703 Pointless

    I swear the bookies are just moving everything around purposely just to annoy us :P
  16. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    Sorry for the delay of a few days! This list will be the basic list from now on, so these are just today's positions. From tomorrow on, I'll also post the changes again.
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ru: Russia (0)
    6. :ua: Ukraine (0)
    7. :it: Italy (0)
    8. :de: Germany (+2)
    9. :by: Belarus (0)
    10. :az: Azerbaijan (-2)
    11. :ge: Georgia (+1)
    12. :ie: Ireland (+2)
    13. :am: Armenia (0)
    14. :gr: Greece (+8)
    15. :uk: United Kingdom (-4)
    16. :at: Austria (+7)
    17. :rs: Serbia (-2)
    18. :fr: France (-2)
    19. :md: Moldova (-1)
    20. :fi: Finland (-3)
    21. :ee: Estonia (+3)
    22. :sm: San Marino (-3)
    23. :il: Israel (+2)
    24. :mt: Malta (+3)
    25. :lt: Lithuania (-4)
    26. :ch: Switzerland (+4)
    27. :me: Montenegro (+4)
    28. :hr: Croatia (0)
    29. :hu: Hungary (+9)
    30. :si: Slovenia (+3)
    31. :is: Iceland (-2)
    32. :al: Albania (-6)
    33. :cy: Cyprus (-13)
    34. :ro: Romania (+3)
    35. :es: Spain (-1)
    36. :bg: Bulgaria (0)
    37. :lv: Latvia (-5)
    38. :mk: FYR Macedonia (-3)
    39. :be: Belgium (0)
  17. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    20th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ua: Ukraine (+1)
    6. :ru: Russia (-1)
    7. :de: Germany (+1)
    8. :it: Italy (-1)
    9. :by: Belarus (0)
    10. :az: Azerbaijan (0)
    11. :ge: Georgia (0)
    12. :ie: Ireland (0)
    13. :am: Armenia (0)
    14. :gr: Greece (0)
    15. :uk: United Kingdom (0)
    16. :at: Austria (0)
    17. :rs: Serbia (0)
    18. :fi: Finland (+2)
    19. :fr: France (-1)
    20. :md: Moldova (-1)
    21. :sm: San Marino (+1)
    22. :mt: Malta (+2)
    23. :si: Slovenia (+7)
    24. :ee: Estonia (-3)
    25. :il: Israel (-2)
    26. :lt: Lithuania (-1)
    27. :ch: Switzerland (-1)
    28. :me: Montenegro (-1)
    29. :hr: Croatia (-1)
    30. :hu: Hungary (-1)
    31. :al: Albania (+1)
    32. :cy: Cyprus (+1)
    33. :es: Spain (+2)
    34. :is: Iceland (-3)
    35. :ro: Romania (-1)
    36. :bg: Bulgaria (0)
    37. :lv: Latvia (0)
    38. :mk: FYR Macedonia (0)
    39. :be: Belgium (0)
    Big losers: Iceland, Estonia
    Big winner: Slovenia
  18. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    21st March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ru: Russia (+1)
    6. :ua: Ukraine (-1)
    7. :de: Germany (0)
    8. :it: Italy (0)
    9. :by: Belarus (0)
    10. :az: Azerbaijan (0)
    11. :ge: Georgia (0)
    12. :sm: San Marino (+9)
    13. :ie: Ireland (-1)
    14. :uk: United Kingdom (+1)
    15. :am: Armenia (-2)
    16. :at: Austria (0)
    17. :gr: Greece (-3)
    18. :rs: Serbia (-1)
    19. :fi: Finland (-1)
    20. :mt: Malta (+2)
    21. :ee: Estonia (+3)
    22. :md: Moldova (-2)
    23. :il: Israel (+2)
    24. :fr: France (-5)
    25. :lt: Lithuania (+1)
    26. :cy: Cyprus (+6)
    27. :ch: Switzerland (0)
    28. :me: Montenegro (0)
    29. :hr: Croatia (0)
    30. :si: Slovenia (-7)
    31. :es: Spain (+2)
    32. :hu: Hungary (-2)
    33. :ro: Romania (+2)
    34. :al: Albania (-3)
    35. :is: Iceland (-1)
    36. :bg: Bulgaria (0)
    37. :lv: Latvia (0)
    38. :mk: FYR Macedonia (0)
    39. :be: Belgium (0)
    Big winners: San Marino, Cyprus & Estonia
    Big losers: Albania, Slovenia, Greece & France
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  19. Genesis2703 Pointless

    Slovenia and Cyprus seem to be bouncing up and down like crazy O_O

    Oh and finally San Marino is being appreciated :)
  20. NickEmpel BURGER AND FRIES

    24th March:
    1. :dk: Denmark (0)
    2. :no: Norway (0)
    3. :nl: Holland (0)
    4. :se: Sweden (0)
    5. :ua: Ukraine (+1)
    6. :ru: Russia (-1)
    7. :it: Italy (+1)
    8. :de: Germany (-1)
    9. :by: Belarus (0)
    10. :az: Azerbaijan (0)
    11. :ge: Georgia (0)
    12. :sm: San Marino (0)
    13. :uk: United Kingdom (+1)
    14. :ie: Ireland (-1)
    15. :fi: Finland (+4)
    16. :am: Armenia (-1)
    17. :gr: Greece (0)
    18. :rs: Serbia (0)
    19. :at: Austria (-3)
    20. :fr: France (+4)
    21. :md: Moldova (+1)
    22. :ee: Estonia (-1)
    23. :mt: Malta (-3)
    24. :il: Israel (-1)
    25. :lt: Lithuania (0)
    26. :es: Spain (+5)
    27. :ch: Switzerland (0)
    28. :hr: Croatia (+1)
    29. :si: Slovenia (+1)
    30. :ro: Romania (+3)
    31. :mk: FYR Macedonia (+7)
    32. :me: Montenegro (-4)
    33. :cy: Cyprus (-7)
    34. :al: Albania (0)
    35. :hu: Hungary (-3)
    36. :is: Iceland (-1)
    37. :lv: Latvia (0)
    38. :bg: Bulgaria (-2)
    39. :be: Belgium (0)
    Big winners: Finland, France, Spain, Romania & FYR Macedonia
    Big losers: Hungary, Cyprus, Montenegro, Austria & Malta

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