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The Third Eurovision Edition

  1. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    Hello!

    It's almost time send your song for the third annual Eurovision Edition of the escChat.com Song Contest.

    Like last year, it will be anonymous, so the participant who the song is representing won't be revealed. To facilitate this, no promotions are permitted this time and song submission must be made via Private Conversation instead of on the contest website.

    Remember the song must not be from this year's Eurovision, must never have won Eurovision and must not have been sent to E1 or E2. As the songs won't be revealed until the actual night, and there's a high risk that multiple people will try sending the same song, please submit a ranked shortlist of potential songs. I recommend 5 or so, but the actual amount is up to you. That way if your first choice is taken, you'll get your second choice (etc etc) on a first come first served basis and it doesn't spoil the surprise by having to tell you that your song has already been taken.

    Also keep in mind this is a live edition so you MUST be in the chat room on Saturday 19th May 2012 at 20:00 UK time to participate in this contest which will have a 15 minute voting window only. Failure to do so will result in your disqualification and banishment from future editions of the contest. So please make sure you can make it before committing to enter.

    Send the usual information (song names, artists, YouTube links and recap times) via Private Conversation to me (jw) when submission opens on Tuesday night.

    The YouTube video (yes, it must be on YouTube) must be the actual live performance at Eurovision. It can be from either the final or semifinal.

    Submission will open after the results of Edition 39, but I'm posting the thread now so people who were previously unaware of the requirement to assemble a shortlist of songs can do so now and not be disadvantaged.
    matthewbell32, Liam, swissBoy and 2 others like this.
  2. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    The following participants have been active in the chat room throughout the non-Eurovision season and expressed an interest in participating:

    adamacs, Curtis, dan, digifreak, Estêvão, EuroCusto, James, Julio, Liam, Lilly.., Ljupco, Luis DLC, MagicGianluk, matthewbell32, Merjan, Mina, mrvirgo, Nessie, NickEmpel, pepepaez, Scheeples, Stockholm calling and swissBoy

    Therefore only submissions from the above people will be accepted. Sorry to anyone else who may wish to enter but the contest is a privilege for friends who keep in touch all year round. Come to chat more often and you will be eligible next time!
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  3. Nessie SWEET HOME ALABAMA

    haha, yeah! :P kidding!!! andale pepito :D
  4. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    SUBMISSION IS NOW OPEN

    Please submit via Private Conversation only. Requests sent in chat, msn, e-mail or via the instant private chat feature won't be counted. Just follow this link.
  5. Gian My avatar is fat and frumpy

    submitted
  6. pepepaez Masiosare's first Head of Delegation.

    Actually I don't think I'll be participating in E3... :'( Scheduled time and date is not working for me... and as much as I'd like to participate, I can't commit to arrive on time due to previous activities. I'll only be able to arrive and watch the show (and quite late, actually). So bad to miss it... :notsure:
  7. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    Submissions will be accepted until Friday 27th April, by the way.

    Additionally, since it will take place on the Saturday before Eurovision, we'll probably have a lot of guests or members who aren't participating with us. And as contest events take place in chat now, it might be a bit intimidating and excluding for them to see a show in which they can play no part. So how about letting them also vote as one guest jury where their points are combined into one set of 12-1, so they feel included too?

    I see the good side that it will capture their interest more so they don't feel excluded, but I'm also aware of a bad side that for example if there are many Turkish or Swedish guests (just as an example) they would likely vote for any Turkish or Swedish songs that might be in the contest (our own diaspora :P).

    So, to balance that, we could have a 50:50 split for the guest jury where the non-participating viewers vote and their points are then combined with my own votes in a 50/50 split to determine the overall points of the guest jury.

    Thoughts?
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  8. James ... and his things xD

    As Josh Dubovie would say: That sounds good to me:whistle:
  9. Julio STRANGLES

    and as i said to Josh: no it doesn't sound good to me :P
  10. swissBoy Active Member

    I like that idea. People wouldn't feel excluded but there wouldn't be a huge diaspora voting either.
  11. Merjan BOSOPOFO ELSIE

    Without wishing to sound rude, Jules, can you say why? Is it that you don't want non-participating members to vote? Is it that you don't want jw's votes combined with theirs? Is it that you don't want jw to vote.....?

    It would, I'm sure, be helpful if you could provide a bit more information.

    At the moment, in the absence of anything concrete against, it seems OK to me.
  12. Julio STRANGLES

    well I said I wouldn't post here my reasons so I wouldn't influence anyone but as you ask, no I don't agree with this, 1st because even if jw has 50% of the voting power if there are 6 Turks and 5 Swedes for example the voting would still be Turkey/Sweden influenced, and, for me at least, the contest should be for the people who take part and or work for the site/contest, plus the idea of guests that probably won't ever show up in the chat room anymore being able to change the contest results doesn't seem suitable for me.
    I said for jw that if it has to be then for me it should be jw 50% and the members that we trust but don't take part, such as Jonas, Sokrates, Darren, Gunec, Stormyangel, etc, would have the other 50%. But no I don't agree on guests voting.
  13. Merjan BOSOPOFO ELSIE

    Thank you. And that seems perfectly acceptable to me.

    From what I've seen so far of guests this year, they have been dipping, and nipping, in and out fairly frequently. I wonder if they would be prepared to spend the whole evening here anyway. I could be wrong, and it may be that the "calibre" of guest changes nearer the actual ESC, but I'm not sure that any of the guests we've had so far (who haven't subsequently become members) would stay for 3 hours plus anyway and, of course, anyone who voted would have to have been present for the whole contest.* Are we really going to have (for example) 6 Turks and 5 Swedes who come before 8pm and stay till gone 11 (probably)? I would have thought if any people stayed for the whole of that time, it would only be 1 or 2, although as I said, I could be totally wrong there.

    *Notwithstanding the fact that my internet is so unreliable at the moment that I'm likely to be "in and out like the troubled sea" (as my mother would have said).
  14. Julio STRANGLES

    We do have guests that come and go and that stay for countries nights and leave after it, just like probably would happen if they were part of the contest, coming voting and leaving after, some of those guests end up to be rude such as one yesterday night that after being here for already a couple of days ended up being banned by me for being homophobic, also those that come and spam for their countries just like we had 5 or 6 Turkish guys that ended up all being banned/kicked on a space of 5 minutes, so I don't trust on guests and for me they shouldn't be able to take part on something that is supposed to be between friends.
  15. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    But as I also explained, it's not possible to segregate "trusted non-participating members" from guests, from a technical point of view. Since they don't have a contest country of their own, they all get lumped in as "non-participating guests" in the eyes of the contest.
  16. Julio STRANGLES

    ofc that's ofc why I'm against it :P
  17. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    I'm obviously for it :D It's the only way I'll get to have a say (I don't want 100% voting rights since it's anonymous etc and it wouldn't be fair) and the number of guests actually interested would be low anyway, but it makes them feel part of it too. And it's only for a one-off special edition in the weekend before Eurovision, it's not like it'd be for every edition.
  18. James ... and his things xD

    I have been thinking about this and actually during the last results show we saw that almost all people who werent in contest left chat.
    About the swedes/turks thing, I think its a bit :bulah: because:

    - Its only about 1/2 set of votes out of all those sets of votes. That means that for example if we have 20 participants it handles about 29 points out of 1160.

    - In contest we have several people from Portugal, The UK, Spain. It never caused any problems in voting.

    - Spammers dont come to a chat for 3 hours. They come in for a while and dont stay all night.
  19. jw HI. I'M ADAM SCOTT.

    Indeed, and since it'll be the weekend before Eurovision, we don't want that to happen again, especially considering the likelihood that we will get busier as the contest approaches, do we?

    I want it to be a fun event to get us in the mood for Eurovision that includes everybody.
  20. Merjan BOSOPOFO ELSIE

    It sounds like you've made up your mind.

    (Going back to the Swedes/Turks [etc] thing, are guests more likely than the rest of us to vote for their own country rather than a song they like? I don't know. I have only three words to say: Rimi Rimi Ley.)

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